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Untrammeled Dorkdom

My first conversation today with someone whom I did not vacation or tour with included references to Doctor Who, the TV series "The Prisoner", high-end audio equipment, and sober assessment of various dork socio-systems in which the phrase "thin borders of dork-dom" was used seriously.

Yes, I'm back in Mountain View at Google. Mai and I still have more to talk about our trip ... which I'll get to shortly after I review my -omigod-

My inbox. Yikes.
posted at September 20, 2004, 11:34 AM


  • At 1:23 PM, Liz said…

    Hey Chris~
    Welcome back! Glad you enjoyed the trip. I would love to see pictures!


  • At 5:19 PM, Jason Goldman said…

    Well, at least we hugged before engaging in the canonical example of dorkout.

  • At 3:57 PM, Just John said…

    If I knew what the hell this was all about, I would love to post a comment

  • At 4:14 PM, Anonymous said…

    If I knew what you were talking about, I would like to post a comment yikes

  • At 1:09 PM, Anonymous said…

    Since there seems to be no other way to contact you, I must resort to this.

    You have the Tolkien fans mad at you. Specifically, the linguists, for posting on the web incorrect information about Middle-earth names. I will list all of your mistakes, and you can easily fix and grow upon them.

    1. No Elf uses the name of another elf. It is like identity theft, and the Ainur will kick your soul out into the void for doing it. Why not have real Elven names that don't belong to someone already?

    2. Elves have 2-3 names in their lifetime, but no last names.

    ~ The first name they get, their baby name, normally has very little to do with the Elf that it is given to. The name is given by their father, and it has something to do with one of their father's names. This name has very little significance, and is more like a temporary name, something to call the child until their personality develops. It never is a family name, or last name. This name is also called the Father Name.

    ~ The second name is incredibly important. The name is given by the mother, and it reflects the personality, skills, and sometimes the mother would have a little bit of foresight, and would name the child from that. It is also called the Mother Name. If the mother died or disappeared before she could name her child, the father would name the child and would name for the same things that the mother would have. If no one were left to name the child, and outsider would name the child after the place they were found or perhaps the event that the parents were lost. Take Elrond for example. Elrond means Star-cave; he and his twin were found in a cave with a waterfall in front of it. His twin's was name is Elros-"Star Foam", after the waterfall. The Elvish title for the first two names is "essi" in Quenya.

    ~ The third name is given by someone outside of the family. It is a title of admiration and honor. This name could have something to do with the Elf's appearance, their profession, or with a deed that the Elf did. This name is most often used in history, thus it is called the Lore Name, or "epessë", after-name in Quenya. For example: Gil-Galad, Celeborn, Galadriel, Peredhel.

    3. No mixing of languages from different races. You have Quenya, Sindarin, Ilkorin, Nandorin, and Doriathrin mixed up with Adûnaic. Adûnaic belongs to the men of Númenor only.

    4. Females don't get masculine names.

    Source: Unfinished Tales By J. R. R. Tolkien, Appendix E- The Names of Celeborn and Galadriel

    If you don't change your Elven names section, please, be gone from the fandom and take down. You've done enough damage already.

  • At 10:36 PM, Anonymous said…

    Be gone, foul Wether-wyrm. How dare you not consult the Tolkien apocrypha before making a fun internet doo-dad.

  • At 5:02 PM, magpie said…

    Wow! I can't believe you've been outdorked. :-) Who loves you baby?

  • At 9:22 AM, LKBM said…

    Very amusing, but I do agree somewhat with Anonymous. If you like Tolkein's work, may as well try to get it right. 'Posers' annoy me, and this name generator is also a poser generator. But, hey, it's just a little fun. Let's not get too crazy. Chris(?) isn't the devil; he's just not a Tolkein expert who is mistaken for one by clueless posers. Don't Blame Chris(?).

    However, I do have one additional thing I'd like to point out: Tolkein, I believe, named two characters 'Legolas'. I won't swear it to, as I am far from an expert on Arda, but that's what I seem to recall.

    Still, it's something to be avoided.

  • At 12:14 AM, randomsurfer said…

    They may not have been named after other Elves, but there are quite a few instances where at least Elves and Men both had th esame I would imagine this wouldn't be much different from sharing a name with their own kin. But, just an opinion.

  • At 4:05 PM, Anonymous said…

    Yes, Tolkien did have two elves named Legolas - one from Gondolin, Legolas of the Tree, and one from Mirkwood/Greenwood, the Legolas from the Fellowship

  • At 12:46 PM, Tratamiento de agua said…

    If I knew what the hell this was all about, I would love to post a comment


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